Nehru Gandhi family scion?

Editor TheTimesofIndia. Date:02-02-2010

In your Times Nation page 12, dated 2/2/10, you report about the mission of Rahul in Bihar, you used the adjectives “Gandhi scion” to his name. In another article on the same subject some days back you used ”Nehru Gandhi family scion “, when referring to Rahul”s name. We do not understand what relevance the name of Gandhi and which Gandhi you and so many other Medias meant when praising words are showered n Sonia, Rahul and Priyanka. If it is Mahatma Gandhi, it is absurd and merely a sycophancy. Gandhiji is not linked in any way to Nehru family, the former a Banyan and the latter a Kashmiri Brahmin. More over Gandhiji never involved in the governance of the country after independence. Nehru and his family ruled the Country for most of the 63 years after independence. In fact Gandhiji was away in West Bengal to console the victims of Communal Riots there , when India became independent on 15/08/47. From Indira onwards down to Sonia and Rahul the name of “Gandhi” is unauthorisedly added to their names to mislead the poor and illiterate people, instead of using the names of husbands/father s, as is the usual practice in vogue. Why these leaders prefer Gandhiji”s name? .

Some men are born great, some become great by their own good deeds and services to Nation and some are made great by sycophants by praising with nonexistent merit.

I shall be thankful to you if you please clarify on what basis and on what relevance you made these references whenever Sonia/Rahul comes in your article/reports. I have written to you on some previous occasions on this subject, but none found a place in your print. I am a reader of TOI since its inception in Bangalore and have appreciated on the bold stand taken by you. I shall thank you to please give me your valuable clarifications on the above anomaly. It is surprising that no such adjectives are used in respect of Varun or Menaka, who are in the very same line of Nehru family and are also in politics, winning elections continuously. I believe you will be kind enough to remove the curiosity on the subject of a Non-Vip reader of TOI.

if Sonia thinks, she can immediately remove the Karnataka Govt., a duly elected one. under BSY and install you on the same day as CM

Sri Veerappa Moily,

Cabinet Minister, New Delhi.

It is quite wonderful to hear your words, that “if Sonia thinks, she can immediately remove the Karnataka Govt., a duly elected one. under Mr. B,S.Yedyurappa, and install you on the same day as CM. Unlike your proxy PM who was not elected by people and has no voting right, entered Parliament through back door, by giving a false residential address. BSY become the CM by the votes of the people of Karnataka. Do you think that this country is the private property of the foreign born Sonia and her half Indian son, to topple and install at her will? Mr. Moily you are in the fool’s paradise, to think that Sonia has the capacity or intelligence to do it. You now see how she made a mess of the situation in Andhra Pradesh, by her foolish announcement on Dec.9 to form the Telengana and now she is inside a Padma vyuham ,unable to come out. The poor PC is being made a scape- goat for all happenings in Andhra. She has no far sight, or diligence to solve any problem, not even talk to an audience for 5 minutes of her own words. She has to depend on her speech writers Mr. Iyer or George and she is not capable of reading it properly. You think she has the divine power to do anything she wishes. Her sycophants like you and many others, made her great by praising nonexistent merit. You have also announced the appointment of Rahul as the PM in 2014. Let her remove the name Gandhi as her surname, as she is not a Gandhi and it is an insult to the great man Mahatma Gandhi. Ask her to do it in regard to her son also, who is misleading the illiterate voters and doing all sorts of gimmick. You may ask her to come to Karnataka and try to topple the duly elected Govt, when you will understand the strength of the people. The congress rule for over 50 years, is a bundle of blunders, from the day of independence. The unilateral ceasefire and reference to UNO about Kashmir, against the advice of top leaders and the Army chief, was the first. He created the Kashmir problem which will never be solved until the end of the world. Chinese war, Blue star operations, IPKF operation, Emergency, dynastic ambition, 1984 anti Sikh riot, etc, are some others. Can you deny? Still you say Sonia can remove a duly elected govt. within minutes. Some of the blunders cost two valuable lives for the country.

You and your other sycophants frequently speak about Gujarat riot 2002 and use the Judiciary, and CBI to harass Mr. Modi, but you do not open your mouth on 1984 Sikh riot, when about 4000 SIKHs (Minorities)were heinously butchered by congress goondas, at the instigation of Rajiv the then PM. His own words after the riot, itself was sufficient proof for his involvement in the riot. Not a single culprits were punished so far even after 25 years, but you and the Judiciary are vociferous about taking action against Modi,who was only the then CM just as Rajiv in 1984. The shoe throwing by a Sikh youth on the face of the PC slowly started the action to punish the 1000 odds culprits. It is only an eye wash and nobody is to be punished, enventhough the PM is a Sikh man.

There is no harm in Rahul becoming PM in the proper way and not in a dynastic way, by cheating the voters, with his illegal surname Gandhi, . Gandhiji has no connection with Nehru family and nor he involved in the Governance of the country after independence. The Media and sycophants every now and then say “Nehru –Gandhi- family icon etc, “when referring to Sonia or Rahul. This should be stopped and let him work with the people and get himself elected in a democratic way, and not through dynastic way.

You often say about the two sacrifices of Sonia, in 1972 and 2004. Sacrifice means, one who forgo any of his belonging solely owned by the person. Sonia did not own the PM ship and it is the people’s property. In 1972 she tried to get it by falsely giving a list of 272 supporters, which was blocked by Pawar and Mulayam, the former is now with her. In 2004, she was ready to take up the post, but a friendly advice from the then President, that it is unfair for a foreigner to become the PM of this vast country against the opposition of a sizable people. If she really sacrificed, why did she bring her parents and other large number of relatives in a chartered flight from Italy to witness the swearing-in ceremony, on the two occasions? They had to return disappointed on the two occasions. Then you call it sacrifices by the Lady. Real sacrifices were made by Sri Rama, Sr Buddha, Mahatma, etc, and you are falsely trying to add Sonia’s name also among these great men. Understand the real meaning of the word sacrifice.

Some people are born great, some become great by their good deeds for the nation and society and some fools are made great by sycophants, praising nonexistent merit. You categorize your leaders according to your discretion. Congress is a national party found by great men, but the present leaders, make it a family party and trying to install a dynastic rule, in the name of democracy. Unlike real democratic countries, in India opposite parties are seen as enemies of the ruling party and vice versa. This should be changed. Congressmen think that they are the only eligible party to rule the country. We have seen how they governed the country for the past 60 years. Dishonest, criminals. and corrupt people are in the Ministry and the PM, though very honest cannot do anything, just to retain his Post. Sonia has only one agenda, to retain the dynastic position. It is fortunate she has withdrawn after defeat on 2 occasions to become PM.

-Thatha

10 years of Sonia as President

The Editor,
MINT,
Hindustan Times House, New Delhi,110001

The article of Mr. Vir Sanghvi 14/3, is only one side of the coin.The words and findings have little in reality. It was only a trial by Media to carve a hero out of zero. As a reader I make my comments .

Your remark and picture “taking over from Kesari” is not correct, as the old man was toppled and forcibly removed from the Post and she unilaterally declared as President

Since her taking charge, the national party had shrinked to a mere regional one ;in Delhi, after the defeat after defeat in states of UP,MP,HP,Gujarat,Bihar,Orissa, Rajasthan and now in the NE states. The only state left for congress to rule on its weight, is Delhi and in some pockets with the help of regional parties. Is this her achievement?

In the 2004 election, congress got only 8 seats more than the opposition and you termed it as a thumping victory. Is it so?. The UPA formed the minority Govt. with one lame leg of congress, two of Left and one from the regional parties, who were ;with the BJP for 6 years. To keep the goings on, the lady had to prostrate before Karat, once in a month and also dance to the tune of DMK chief. Indira Gandhi was the last congress leader who delivered and no comments of dynasty rule, from any quarters due to her enviable capacity. But it is not the case of Sonia or Rahul, who lack visionary leadership and only keep hopes in the surname Gandhi. This name is being used unauthorized to defraud the poor illiterate voters. The Mahatma Gandhi was never involved in the governance or connected with the Nehru family, .Their names should be Sonia Rajiv and Rahul Rajiv. It is ridiculous on the part of Media to frequently mention “Nehru Gandhi family Rule. It is only Nehru Family Rule.. Gandhiji’s name is unnecessarily dragged in the middle to get mileage for congress. Rahul is doing road shows ;and issuing stray comments which did not work in UP or Guijarat The main reason for the congress to decline is due to their shifting from the original basic features of Honesty, Integrity and Dharma to a mere Power hungry. Example, the fraudulent struggle in Bihar, Jharkand, and now in Meghalaya, to retain power, which all failed.The congress can be revived only if they can go back to original principles and morality, with Honesty as Password. It is a pity that the Big National party could not find a suitable Leader to guide and; have to ponder the dynastic way. I am a sympathizer of congress fore the past 7 decades, not the present one, but the original congress found by persons like Gandhiji and others.

In 1999 and 2004, she wanted become PM with a false figure 272 (in 99) and in both occasions, she brought her parents and others in chartered flight from Italy to witness her swearing in ceremony. But had to return; with blackened face. Is this sacrifice? The drama was enacted after her last minute visit with President, who gave a friendly advice that it is inappropriate and wrong for a foreign lady to lead this country. The sycophants turned it as great sacrifice.. Mr. Pawar and Mulayam did the good thing to protest her coming to power. The former is now with her.

When the President invited the largest party of Vajpayee to form Govt. in 99, the entire media and parties vehemently protested and even threatened the President . But when the; same; thing was enacted in Meghalaya, there were only few protesters

- Thatha

M.F. Hussain and Nude paintings of Hindu deities

Sri N Ram, Chief Editor, The Hindu,

It is astonishing to see your special editorial of 25^th, feb.10. Is it so important an occasion to celebrate? A Muslim dynastic Monarch gave an award to another Muslim fundamentalist, for his art. Why not He considers Nasreen also, who is struggling to find a shelter? You dealt in details of his creative genius etc, but failed to deal with the other side of the coin, i.e. his expertise in wounding the sentiments of a very large section of people (Hindus) by painting the nude pictures of Hindu religious deities considered as sacred. You say Hussian is a secular person, but he did not paint the nude pictures of Mary Martha or any other prominent Muslim women. He preferred only Hindu deities because he is an anti-Hindu fundamentalist, eager to wound the sentiments of Hindus. You, surpsisingly, justified the nude paintings by Hussian, by referring to some art sculptures exhibited in some temples, which are not the integral par of Hindu Religion. In the Bible there are certain stanzas relating to sex and its performance. Please advise whether you justify anyone reproducing in print those portions. In this connection I bring to your notice two other names Salman Rushdie and Taslima Nasreen who are also in the same path of Hussain, wounding the sentiments of Muslims in their writings and who were also driven away from their home land. The Govt and you Medias did not say that it is their fundamental right but banned the books in India, to appease the Muslim protesters. In the case of Hussain you and the Govt, did not say anything about the negative side of the nude pictures, and how it wounded the feelings of Hindus. When the Visa to Nasreen was renewed, Minister Prabab Mukherjee, said that Nasrren should be careful in her writings not to wound the feelings of others. Why you and the Govt. did not give the same advice o Hussain to restrict his art works, so as not to wound the feelings of others.

Secularism in India means hate the majority religion and praise others. One Dr.Rev.Benjamin,a renowned Priest, in an article in TOI on “secularism in India said ” a Hindu is considered as secular only when he hate Hinduism for anything and everything and praise others even on their wrong doings. This comment well suit you, as you are struggling hard to get the stamp of secularism affixed firmly on The Hindu. You are worrying about the nomenclature of the paper and having sleepless nights over it (same words as stated by your former readers” editor himself). In the case of Hussain he wounds the feelings of Hindus and the other two, the feelings of Muslims. While you justify Hussain and oppose the protestors, in the other cases, you justify the protestors and oppose the writers. Is it not a strange phenomenon to practice opposite views on identical matters? It is familiar for you, as you wrote an editorial in support of the Nuclear deal on one day and wrote just opposite, protesting the deal in another editorial the next day. Your humble readers are confused which is correct and which is wrong. Are sentimental wounds differing in volume or gravity, when indicting on Hindus and Muslims? I presume I have also the freedom of expression to say my views as you have and hence this letter. If you can take this writer, having over 65 years of Hindu readership, as a member of Hindu, please let me have a reply with your valuable comments, to enable me to correct my views. In spite of my opposition to some of your ideals and writings, I still keep reading Hindu, because of some sentiments.

-Thatha

Memories of an old friend - Jose Prakash

My dear Jose Prakash, Bangalore,20/04/09,

Perhaps you may surprise this letter from a very old friend of Kottayam, when you were managing the Jose tailors, opp. to Indian Coffee house and Bank of Deccan, and beneath Palai Central Bank. When I was going to and back

MD Seminary, during my school days I noticed the shop with busy employees doing service to many people of the town. Though I wanted to enter the shop and get a shirt , I could not do so, as shirts were stitched then only once in 6 months and that too at the village tailor shop (at Thiruvarpu ) where the cost was only 4 chakrams (12.5 paise!) , whereas you charged 4 annas (25 paise).

Finally I got permission from mother and got stitched a shirt from your shop at 6 annas. and you reduced it to 4 annas on my negotiation. I do not know whether you are the same person, now in your Sathabishekam. I wish you all prosperity for your family and good health for another 10 years. or more.

I do not remember when you left the shop at Kottayam. Later when I saw you in the films, I identified you and become a fan. I very much appreciate many of your pictures; one among is your Father action with ungrateful children. It was shown in the TV some time back and I spoke to my wife and children about you and our connection for a small time (say b4 or 5 years). Even when I have no business at the shop I used to come and meet you during my return home to Thiruvarpu.

Among the lakhs of fans and well wishers for a person of your stature, you may not have a chance to remember this old association, and that too when I am not in the VIPs class . Any how I am really glad that I could at least remember you now from the Photo in Mathrubhumy and convey this message of good wishes on the occasion of your Sathabishekam. My best regards, and Prayers for your well being and convey this to your family members.

We are of the same age group (self 82), but I could not get an opportunity to meet you after you left Kottayam. I first joined Forward Bank and then in Travancore Bank and retired after 41 years service. Like you, I have 6 children (4 d and 2 s) and all well educated and well placed, two of them in high position. All my grand children are also well educated. I could not get higher education, due to non- availability of colleges at Kottayam then and the sudden death of my father and I compensated it by giving very good education to my children, by the Grace of God.

My wife, who is also an appreciator of your Cinemas, join with me to convey our Best Wishes on this happy occasion of your Sathabishekam and Pray God Almighty to shower His choicest blessings on you and your family, for many more years . If you have time and willingness, please write a reply to this old friend, who is away from you for the past 50 years. Now I am settled in Bangalore with my sons, who care us very well and we are indebted to the Great God, for giving such good opportunity, at the fag end of life.

With regards to all If I get a chance to visit Ernakulam, I surely desire to meet you to renew the relationship ,of 50 years back.

Warm Regards
Thatha

Modi vs Pinarayi - A Joke Blown Up

Dear Latheef,

Communalism

I appreciate your letter dt. 21/04/09 in the Mathrubhumy on communalism. I really wonder, a person of your social set up ,dared to speak against Pinarayi Vijayan, the strong man of the CPM, for communalizing a simple incident , because the two persons involved , were from two religions and also one among them from Gujarat , the No.1 enemy of all the medias and the non BJP political parties . Every now and then these parties utter the common word ”Gujarat” and Modi, but conveniently keep mum over the heinous killing of 4000 minority Sikhs in 1984 in the aftermath of the murder of Indira Gandhi ,at the initiative of the then PM Rajeev in vengeance to his mothers assassination. In Gujarat and in Delhi, both the incidents were in retaliation of certain previous violence and it is quite natural such riots happen every where. Why single out Modi alone and leave Rajeev, who could not control the riot against the Sikhs,. The Govt. Police and Military posed a blind eye for two days and the riot was permitted to go on, killing innocent women and children. Even after 24 years no one was punished. But the mere throw of a boot by a Sikh journalist created wonders and the lady woke up and cancelled the candidature of two criminals involved in the Sikh riot. As everybody blame only Modi, who had done his best to control the riot. But in 1984, the first accused should be Rajeev and the Lady, who persuaded congressmen to continue the violence. Rajeev said, when a big banyan tree fell, the small ones beneath would also fall. This statement itself is enough to include him as first accused. But what has happened. The shoe did wonders and the 4000 Sikh ghosts are circling over the congress leaders and the Lady, who fears a backfire in the election.

The Gujarat Officer did not know even the name of the victim or his religion. He took it as a mere joke and the unscrupulous politicians saw Hindutuva here also.

Real meaning of secularism and democracy is treating all people equally, no discrimination, no appeasement, no denial of opportunity to any one, on the basis of religion, caste, language, region or gender. Do you think, this prevails in India? No

The situation was near equal, to this, during the Rule of Nehru, Sastry and the first term of Indira Gandhi. Afterwards everything was torpedoed to the present situation.

You see the present election scene. Parties, who were bed mates, are now fighting each other and mudslinging carry on towards every one. How these people meet the next step of forming the Govt. and how the people accept it. Please give me a reply to my remarks and comments and if you disagree please point out. Thanking you.

Yours sincerely,

Thatha

Judges vs Politicians -VR Krishna Iyer's 'friendly' advice to Mrs Gandhi

Sri.K.P.Ramachandran,
Advocate, 21-04-09
Ernakulam, Kochi
Kerala.

Dear Sri.Ramachandran,

Judicial thinking.

Your article on the above subject is a fine piece of a real situation now prevailing in the Indian Democracy, especially after the emergency. The Ruling party, particularly the Congress, adopted a dishonest stature towards Judiciary and tried to influence for their sake. You may refer to an article by Sri.Ramkumar, Advocate in the same edition of Mathrubhumy, (21/4) about reservation for Judicial Retirees. It is very interesting. The readers, view these two articles, very interestingly and appreciate the boldness shown by you and Ram Kumar.

I agree with your comments about Sri.VR Krishna Iyer, the most honest and brilliant personality, had also gone wrong in many occasions to save Politicians, of course, not for any benefit.

During the Emergency time, when the appeal of Indira Gandhi, against the Allahabad High court judgment proclaiming the election of Indira Gandhi null and void, on charges of corrupt practices during the election period, which was cent per cent correct and could not be revoked. The appeal came up before Mr. Krishna Iyer, then Supreme court Judge, knowing very well, that the appeal could not stand, he advised in the open court to Mr.Palkhiwala, the senior Advocate appearing for Indira Gandhi, that the appeal could stand only if the Constitution is amended with retrospective effect to counter the corruption charges made in the election petition, as it was so strong against Indira Gandhi who misused the Official position in winning the election. As an ordinary man, not familiar with judicial proceedings, I think it was wrong on the part of Mr. Krishna Iyer to ask the advocate of the appellant party to get the Sacred Constitution amended, that too

With retrospective effect(!), unheard of any where in the World,. His duty was only to look into the High court judgment on its merits or demerits to consider revoking it, or allow..

Indira Gandhi got the amendment of the Constitution of India, the most sacred one, with retrospective effect within a period of 15 days and got the Allahabad High Court Judgment revoked, to save her PM’s chair, i.e. to save the Position of an Individual, who had been declared by the Allahabad High court as an Offender. The same thing had happened in the case of her foreign d-in-law when she also managed to amend the constitution with retrospective effect to save her MP seat in the Parliament. Please reply me about your comments, on my observations, which is purely personal and with no other motive.

Yours sincerely,

Thatha